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[Tiki-devel] Site/browser title preference definitions (was RE: [Tikiwiki-cvs/svn] Browser title relabelling (Re: SF.net SVN: tikiwiki:[62289] branches/17.x))

Cloutier, Philippe (RESSOURCE EXTERNE)

I am fine with your suggestions, but luciash’s apparent concern about Browser title is valid. For someone who doesn’t know HTML, “Browser title” must indeed be unclear. Since it is non-trivial to define the browser title with today’s Web, I think it would be ideal to take your proposal, but to use the preference description to explain something like:

The browser title is used in the browser’s window title. In browsers which feature tabs, it is the tab title.

 

Philippe Cloutier
Développeur/configurateur Tiki

Service des systèmes d’information du Registre foncier

Direction des systèmes d’information

Direction générale du soutien aux opérations

Ministère de l'Énergie et des Ressources naturelles

Québec (Québec)  G1H 6R1

Téléphone : 418 627-6282, poste 2209

philippe.cloutier.externe@...
mern.gouv.qc.ca

 

De : Jean-Marc Libs [mailto:[hidden email]]
Envoyé : 23 avril 2017 11:57
À : CVS/SVN commits information <[hidden email]>
Cc : Tikiwiki developers <[hidden email]>
Objet : Re: [Tikiwiki-cvs/svn] Browser title relabelling (Re: SF.net SVN: tikiwiki:[62289] branches/17.x)

 

Ooops, typo below

 

On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Jean-Marc Libs <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi guys,

I don't mind changing this again, but not every other day :-D

So, I move the discussion on the dev list and leave some time for labels everybody likes, or at least, nobody dislikes too much.

I'm ok with anything which is consistent together with prefs browsertitle, site_title_location and site_title_breadcrumb.

Before, the inconsistent labels were:
browsertitle: ''Browser title''
site_title_location: ''Site title location''
site_title_breadcrumb: ''Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to the current page\'s descriptor.''


Now they are:
browsertitle: ''Browser title''
site_title_location: ''Browser title position''
site_title_breadcrumb: ''Position of the browser title in the browser title bar relative to the current page\'s descriptor.''


Current suggestions are:
browsertitle: ''Browser title''
site_title_location: ''Site name position in browser title bar''
site_title_breadcrumb: ''Position of the browser title in the browser title bar relative to the current page\'s descriptor.''


Another suggestion:
browsertitle: "Site name" or "Site name (Browser title)" or "Browser title (site name)".
site_title_location: ''Site name position in browser title bar''
site_title_breadcrumb: ''Position of the browser title in the browser title bar relative to the current page\'s descriptor.''


I would personally suggest:
browsertitle: "Site name in browser title)
site_title_location: ''Site name position in browser title''
site_title_breadcrumb: ''Position of the site  in the browser title relative to the current page\'s descriptor.''

I meant:
site_title_breadcrumb: ''Position of the site name in the browser title relative to the current page\'s descriptor.''

 

Cheers,

J-M

 

On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Bernard Sfez <[hidden email]> wrote:

Uh, looking at this again, maybe "Site title location" should be "Site 
name position in browser title bar".

 

Look even clearer (sorry for extra work JM ;) )  but then, "Browser title" (above) should be "Site name" or anything with ref to this label like : "Site name (Browser title)" or  "Browser title (site name)".

 

Reminder, "Sender email" should be moved to the "Mai" section.

 

Done already!
 

 

 

On 22 Apr 2017, at 07:20 , Gary Cunningham-Lee <[hidden email]> wrote:

 

Uh, looking at this again, maybe "Site title location" should be "Site
name position in browser title bar".

It is longer, but seems more clear to me (shouldn't browser title be
browser title bar in any case, as this is the actual name of the
thing?). Now I'm also thinking it's better not to use "Site title" in
this context because "Site title" is also used for the large text next
to the site icon/logo.

(Sorry for the late feedback.)

-- Gary

On 4/22/2017 4:11 AM, Cloutier, Philippe (RESSOURCE EXTERNE) wrote:

Hi Jean-Marc,
Please see https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&threadId=63876&comzone=show
I consider this as a net regression.


-----Message d'origine-----
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Envoyé : 21 avril 2017 12:19
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Objet : [Tikiwiki-cvs/svn] SF.net SVN: tikiwiki:[62289] branches/17.x

Revision: 62289
          http://sourceforge.net/p/tikiwiki/code/62289
Author:   jyhem
Date:     2017-04-21 16:18:36 +0000 (Fri, 21 Apr 2017)
Log Message:
-----------
[UX] Make the whole Browser title configuration easier to understand, as discussed during 2017-04-20
roundtable

Modified Paths:
--------------
    branches/17.x/lang/ar/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/bg/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/ca/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/cn/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/cs/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/cy/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/da/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/de/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/el/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/en/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/en-uk/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/es/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/fa/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/fi/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/fj/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/fr/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/fy-NL/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/gl/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/he/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/hr/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/hu/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/id/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/is/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/it/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/iu/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/iu-iq/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/iu-ro/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/ja/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/ko/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/lt/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/nds/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/nl/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/no/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/pl/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/pt/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/pt-br/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/rm/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/ro/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/ru/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/sb/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/si/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/sk/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/sl/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/sq/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/sr-latn/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/sv/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/th/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/tr/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/tv/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/tw/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/uk/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/ur/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/vi/language.php
    branches/17.x/lib/prefs/site.php
    branches/17.x/templates/admin/include_general.tpl

Modified: branches/17.x/lang/ar/language.php
===================================================================
--- branches/17.x/lang/ar/language.php 2017-04-21 16:15:45 UTC (rev 62288)
+++ branches/17.x/lang/ar/language.php 2017-04-21 16:18:36 UTC (rev 62289)
@@ -4520,7 +4520,9 @@
 // "Locations (breadcrumbs)" => "Locations (breadcrumbs)",
 // "Choices" => "Choices",
 // "Site title location" => "Site title location",
+// "Browser title position" => "Site title location",
 // "Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor" =>
"Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor",
+// "Position of the browser title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor" =>
"Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor",
 // "After" => "After",
 // "Before" => "Before",
 // "Browser title display mode" => "Browser title display mode",

…[snip]…

Modified: branches/17.x/lang/vi/language.php
===================================================================
--- branches/17.x/lang/vi/language.php 2017-04-21 16:15:45 UTC (rev 62288)
+++ branches/17.x/lang/vi/language.php 2017-04-21 16:18:36 UTC (rev 62289)
@@ -4520,7 +4520,9 @@
 // "Locations (breadcrumbs)" => "Locations (breadcrumbs)",
 // "Choices" => "Choices",
 // "Site title location" => "Site title location",
+// "Browser title position" => "Site title location",
 // "Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor" =>
"Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor",
+// "Position of the browser title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor" =>
"Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor",
 // "After" => "After",
 // "Before" => "Before",
 // "Browser title display mode" => "Browser title display mode",

Modified: branches/17.x/lib/prefs/site.php
===================================================================
--- branches/17.x/lib/prefs/site.php 2017-04-21 16:15:45 UTC (rev 62288)
+++ branches/17.x/lib/prefs/site.php 2017-04-21 16:18:36 UTC (rev 62289)
@@ -54,14 +54,15 @@
  'default' => '|',
  ),
  'site_title_location' => array(
- 'name' => tra('Site title location'),
- 'description' => tra('Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to
the current page\'s descriptor.'),
+ 'name' => tra('Browser title position'),
+ 'description' => tra('Position of the browser title in the full browser bar relative
to the current page\'s descriptor.'),
  'type' => 'list',
  'options' => array(
- 'after' => tra('After'),
- 'before' => tra('Before'),
- 'none' => tra('None'),
+ 'after' => tra('After current page\'s descriptor'),
+ 'before' => tra('Before current page\'s descriptor'),
+ 'none' => tra('No browser title, only current page\'s descriptor'),
  ),
+ 'tags' => array('basic'),
  'default' => 'before',
  ),
  'site_title_breadcrumb' => array(
@@ -74,6 +75,7 @@
  'pagetitle' => tra('Current only'),
  'desc' => tra('Description'),
  ),
+ 'tags' => array('advanced'),
  'default' => 'invertfull',
  ),
  'site_favicon_enable' => array(

Modified: branches/17.x/templates/admin/include_general.tpl
===================================================================
--- branches/17.x/templates/admin/include_general.tpl 2017-04-21 16:15:45 UTC (rev 62288)
+++ branches/17.x/templates/admin/include_general.tpl 2017-04-21 16:18:36 UTC (rev 62289)
@@ -35,7 +35,6 @@
  <fieldset>
  <legend>{tr}Site identity{/tr}</legend>
  {preference name=browsertitle}
- {preference name=sender_email}
  {preference name=site_title_location}
  {preference name=site_title_breadcrumb}
  {remarksbox type="info" title="{tr}Themes{/tr}"}
@@ -44,6 +43,7 @@
  </fieldset>
  <fieldset>
  <legend>{tr}Mail{/tr}</legend>
+ {preference name=sender_email}
  {preference name=default_mail_charset}
  {preference name=mail_crlf}
  {preference name=zend_mail_handler}

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Re: [Tiki-devel] Site/browser title preference definitions (was RE: [Tikiwiki-cvs/svn] Browser title relabelling (Re: SF.net SVN: tikiwiki:[62289] branches/17.x))

Jean-Marc Libs
Hi everybody,

This is a joint answer to Luci's very good point about tabs slowly taking over the role of windows, Philippe's point about keeping the label short and moving detailed explanations in the descriptions.
I also share Gary's dislike of "page's descriptor" which is off-putting. I guess it's because we can have blog posts, articles, trackeritems, admin pages and a lot of other things which are not strictly "page names", but then we should have replaced "page", not "name" :-) And from the browser viewpoint, it's all pages anyway.

So, to get a full view of the user's experience, I have also reviewed the associates descriptions and options names and I suggest the following synthesis of our comments:

browsertitle: "Site name in browser title"
browsertitle description: 'Visible label in the browser\'s window title bar. In browsers which feature tabs, it is the tab title. Also appears in search engine results.'

site_title_location: ''Site name position in browser title''
site_title_location description: 'Position of the site name in the browser title relative to the current page name.'
      'options' => array(
        'after' => tra('After current page name'),
        'before' => tra('Before current page name'),
        'none' => tra('No browser title, only current page name'),
        'only' => tra('Only browser title, no current page name'),

site_title_breadcrumb: ''Position of the site name in the browser title relative to the current page name.''
site_title_breadcrumb description: 'When breadcrumbs are used, method to display the browser title.' (unchanged)

I feel we are nearing some consensus :)

Cheers,
Jyhem



On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 8:49 PM, Cloutier, Philippe (RESSOURCE EXTERNE) <[hidden email]> wrote:

I am fine with your suggestions, but luciash’s apparent concern about Browser title is valid. For someone who doesn’t know HTML, “Browser title” must indeed be unclear. Since it is non-trivial to define the browser title with today’s Web, I think it would be ideal to take your proposal, but to use the preference description to explain something like:

The browser title is used in the browser’s window title. In browsers which feature tabs, it is the tab title.

 

Philippe Cloutier
Développeur/configurateur Tiki

Service des systèmes d’information du Registre foncier

Direction des systèmes d’information

Direction générale du soutien aux opérations

Ministère de l'Énergie et des Ressources naturelles

Québec (Québec)  G1H 6R1

Téléphone : 418 627-6282, poste 2209

philippe.cloutier.externe@mern.gouv.qc.ca
mern.gouv.qc.ca

 

De : Jean-Marc Libs [mailto:[hidden email]]
Envoyé : 23 avril 2017 11:57
À : CVS/SVN commits information <[hidden email]>
Cc : Tikiwiki developers <[hidden email]>
Objet : Re: [Tikiwiki-cvs/svn] Browser title relabelling (Re: SF.net SVN: tikiwiki:[62289] branches/17.x)

 

Ooops, typo below

 

On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Jean-Marc Libs <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi guys,

I don't mind changing this again, but not every other day :-D

So, I move the discussion on the dev list and leave some time for labels everybody likes, or at least, nobody dislikes too much.

I'm ok with anything which is consistent together with prefs browsertitle, site_title_location and site_title_breadcrumb.

Before, the inconsistent labels were:
browsertitle: ''Browser title''
site_title_location: ''Site title location''
site_title_breadcrumb: ''Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to the current page\'s descriptor.''


Now they are:
browsertitle: ''Browser title''
site_title_location: ''Browser title position''
site_title_breadcrumb: ''Position of the browser title in the browser title bar relative to the current page\'s descriptor.''


Current suggestions are:
browsertitle: ''Browser title''
site_title_location: ''Site name position in browser title bar''
site_title_breadcrumb: ''Position of the browser title in the browser title bar relative to the current page\'s descriptor.''


Another suggestion:
browsertitle: "Site name" or "Site name (Browser title)" or "Browser title (site name)".
site_title_location: ''Site name position in browser title bar''
site_title_breadcrumb: ''Position of the browser title in the browser title bar relative to the current page\'s descriptor.''


I would personally suggest:
browsertitle: "Site name in browser title)
site_title_location: ''Site name position in browser title''
site_title_breadcrumb: ''Position of the site  in the browser title relative to the current page\'s descriptor.''

I meant:
site_title_breadcrumb: ''Position of the site name in the browser title relative to the current page\'s descriptor.''

 

Cheers,

J-M

 

On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Bernard Sfez <[hidden email]> wrote:

Uh, looking at this again, maybe "Site title location" should be "Site 
name position in browser title bar".

 

Look even clearer (sorry for extra work JM ;) )  but then, "Browser title" (above) should be "Site name" or anything with ref to this label like : "Site name (Browser title)" or  "Browser title (site name)".

 

Reminder, "Sender email" should be moved to the "Mai" section.

 

Done already!
 

 

 

On 22 Apr 2017, at 07:20 , Gary Cunningham-Lee <[hidden email]> wrote:

 

Uh, looking at this again, maybe "Site title location" should be "Site
name position in browser title bar".

It is longer, but seems more clear to me (shouldn't browser title be
browser title bar in any case, as this is the actual name of the
thing?). Now I'm also thinking it's better not to use "Site title" in
this context because "Site title" is also used for the large text next
to the site icon/logo.

(Sorry for the late feedback.)

-- Gary

On 4/22/2017 4:11 AM, Cloutier, Philippe (RESSOURCE EXTERNE) wrote:

Hi Jean-Marc,
Please see https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&threadId=63876&comzone=show
I consider this as a net regression.


-----Message d'origine-----
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Envoyé : 21 avril 2017 12:19
À : [hidden email]
Objet : [Tikiwiki-cvs/svn] SF.net SVN: tikiwiki:[62289] branches/17.x

Revision: 62289
          http://sourceforge.net/p/tikiwiki/code/62289
Author:   jyhem
Date:     2017-04-21 16:18:36 +0000 (Fri, 21 Apr 2017)
Log Message:
-----------
[UX] Make the whole Browser title configuration easier to understand, as discussed during 2017-04-20
roundtable

Modified Paths:
--------------
    branches/17.x/lang/ar/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/bg/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/ca/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/cn/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/cs/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/cy/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/da/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/de/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/el/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/en/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/en-uk/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/es/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/fa/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/fi/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/fj/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/fr/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/fy-NL/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/gl/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/he/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/hr/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/hu/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/id/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/is/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/it/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/iu/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/iu-iq/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/iu-ro/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/ja/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/ko/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/lt/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/nds/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/nl/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/no/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/pl/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/pt/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/pt-br/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/rm/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/ro/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/ru/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/sb/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/si/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/sk/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/sl/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/sq/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/sr-latn/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/sv/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/th/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/tr/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/tv/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/tw/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/uk/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/ur/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/vi/language.php
    branches/17.x/lib/prefs/site.php
    branches/17.x/templates/admin/include_general.tpl

Modified: branches/17.x/lang/ar/language.php
===================================================================
--- branches/17.x/lang/ar/language.php 2017-04-21 16:15:45 UTC (rev 62288)
+++ branches/17.x/lang/ar/language.php 2017-04-21 16:18:36 UTC (rev 62289)
@@ -4520,7 +4520,9 @@
 // "Locations (breadcrumbs)" => "Locations (breadcrumbs)",
 // "Choices" => "Choices",
 // "Site title location" => "Site title location",
+// "Browser title position" => "Site title location",
 // "Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor" =>
"Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor",
+// "Position of the browser title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor" =>
"Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor",
 // "After" => "After",
 // "Before" => "Before",
 // "Browser title display mode" => "Browser title display mode",

…[snip]…

Modified: branches/17.x/lang/vi/language.php
===================================================================
--- branches/17.x/lang/vi/language.php 2017-04-21 16:15:45 UTC (rev 62288)
+++ branches/17.x/lang/vi/language.php 2017-04-21 16:18:36 UTC (rev 62289)
@@ -4520,7 +4520,9 @@
 // "Locations (breadcrumbs)" => "Locations (breadcrumbs)",
 // "Choices" => "Choices",
 // "Site title location" => "Site title location",
+// "Browser title position" => "Site title location",
 // "Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor" =>
"Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor",
+// "Position of the browser title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor" =>
"Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor",
 // "After" => "After",
 // "Before" => "Before",
 // "Browser title display mode" => "Browser title display mode",

Modified: branches/17.x/lib/prefs/site.php
===================================================================
--- branches/17.x/lib/prefs/site.php 2017-04-21 16:15:45 UTC (rev 62288)
+++ branches/17.x/lib/prefs/site.php 2017-04-21 16:18:36 UTC (rev 62289)
@@ -54,14 +54,15 @@
  'default' => '|',
  ),
  'site_title_location' => array(
- 'name' => tra('Site title location'),
- 'description' => tra('Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to
the current page\'s descriptor.'),
+ 'name' => tra('Browser title position'),
+ 'description' => tra('Position of the browser title in the full browser bar relative
to the current page\'s descriptor.'),
  'type' => 'list',
  'options' => array(
- 'after' => tra('After'),
- 'before' => tra('Before'),
- 'none' => tra('None'),
+ 'after' => tra('After current page\'s descriptor'),
+ 'before' => tra('Before current page\'s descriptor'),
+ 'none' => tra('No browser title, only current page\'s descriptor'),
  ),
+ 'tags' => array('basic'),
  'default' => 'before',
  ),
  'site_title_breadcrumb' => array(
@@ -74,6 +75,7 @@
  'pagetitle' => tra('Current only'),
  'desc' => tra('Description'),
  ),
+ 'tags' => array('advanced'),
  'default' => 'invertfull',
  ),
  'site_favicon_enable' => array(

Modified: branches/17.x/templates/admin/include_general.tpl
===================================================================
--- branches/17.x/templates/admin/include_general.tpl 2017-04-21 16:15:45 UTC (rev 62288)
+++ branches/17.x/templates/admin/include_general.tpl 2017-04-21 16:18:36 UTC (rev 62289)
@@ -35,7 +35,6 @@
  <fieldset>
  <legend>{tr}Site identity{/tr}</legend>
  {preference name=browsertitle}
- {preference name=sender_email}
  {preference name=site_title_location}
  {preference name=site_title_breadcrumb}
  {remarksbox type="info" title="{tr}Themes{/tr}"}
@@ -44,6 +43,7 @@
  </fieldset>
  <fieldset>
  <legend>{tr}Mail{/tr}</legend>
+ {preference name=sender_email}
  {preference name=default_mail_charset}
  {preference name=mail_crlf}
  {preference name=zend_mail_handler}

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Re: [Tiki-devel] Site/browser title preference definitions (was RE: [Tikiwiki-cvs/svn] Browser title relabelling (Re: SF.net SVN: tikiwiki:[62289] branches/17.x))

Torsten Fabricius-4
+1


On 25.04.2017 17:11, Jean-Marc Libs wrote:
Hi everybody,

This is a joint answer to Luci's very good point about tabs slowly taking over the role of windows, Philippe's point about keeping the label short and moving detailed explanations in the descriptions.
I also share Gary's dislike of "page's descriptor" which is off-putting. I guess it's because we can have blog posts, articles, trackeritems, admin pages and a lot of other things which are not strictly "page names", but then we should have replaced "page", not "name" :-) And from the browser viewpoint, it's all pages anyway.

So, to get a full view of the user's experience, I have also reviewed the associates descriptions and options names and I suggest the following synthesis of our comments:

browsertitle: "Site name in browser title"
browsertitle description: 'Visible label in the browser\'s window title bar. In browsers which feature tabs, it is the tab title. Also appears in search engine results.'

site_title_location: ''Site name position in browser title''
site_title_location description: 'Position of the site name in the browser title relative to the current page name.'
      'options' => array(
        'after' => tra('After current page name'),
        'before' => tra('Before current page name'),
        'none' => tra('No browser title, only current page name'),
        'only' => tra('Only browser title, no current page name'),

site_title_breadcrumb: ''Position of the site name in the browser title relative to the current page name.''
site_title_breadcrumb description: 'When breadcrumbs are used, method to display the browser title.' (unchanged)

I feel we are nearing some consensus :)

Cheers,
Jyhem



On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 8:49 PM, Cloutier, Philippe (RESSOURCE EXTERNE) <[hidden email]> wrote:

I am fine with your suggestions, but luciash’s apparent concern about Browser title is valid. For someone who doesn’t know HTML, “Browser title” must indeed be unclear. Since it is non-trivial to define the browser title with today’s Web, I think it would be ideal to take your proposal, but to use the preference description to explain something like:

The browser title is used in the browser’s window title. In browsers which feature tabs, it is the tab title.

 

Philippe Cloutier
Développeur/configurateur Tiki

Service des systèmes d’information du Registre foncier

Direction des systèmes d’information

Direction générale du soutien aux opérations

Ministère de l'Énergie et des Ressources naturelles

Québec (Québec)  G1H 6R1

Téléphone : 418 627-6282, poste 2209

philippe.cloutier.externe@mern.gouv.qc.ca
mern.gouv.qc.ca

 

De : Jean-Marc Libs [mailto:[hidden email]]
Envoyé : 23 avril 2017 11:57
À : CVS/SVN commits information <[hidden email]>
Cc : Tikiwiki developers <[hidden email]>
Objet : Re: [Tikiwiki-cvs/svn] Browser title relabelling (Re: SF.net SVN: tikiwiki:[62289] branches/17.x)

 

Ooops, typo below

 

On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Jean-Marc Libs <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi guys,

I don't mind changing this again, but not every other day :-D

So, I move the discussion on the dev list and leave some time for labels everybody likes, or at least, nobody dislikes too much.

I'm ok with anything which is consistent together with prefs browsertitle, site_title_location and site_title_breadcrumb.

Before, the inconsistent labels were:
browsertitle: ''Browser title''
site_title_location: ''Site title location''
site_title_breadcrumb: ''Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to the current page\'s descriptor.''


Now they are:
browsertitle: ''Browser title''
site_title_location: ''Browser title position''
site_title_breadcrumb: ''Position of the browser title in the browser title bar relative to the current page\'s descriptor.''


Current suggestions are:
browsertitle: ''Browser title''
site_title_location: ''Site name position in browser title bar''
site_title_breadcrumb: ''Position of the browser title in the browser title bar relative to the current page\'s descriptor.''


Another suggestion:
browsertitle: "Site name" or "Site name (Browser title)" or "Browser title (site name)".
site_title_location: ''Site name position in browser title bar''
site_title_breadcrumb: ''Position of the browser title in the browser title bar relative to the current page\'s descriptor.''


I would personally suggest:
browsertitle: "Site name in browser title)
site_title_location: ''Site name position in browser title''
site_title_breadcrumb: ''Position of the site  in the browser title relative to the current page\'s descriptor.''

I meant:
site_title_breadcrumb: ''Position of the site name in the browser title relative to the current page\'s descriptor.''

 

Cheers,

J-M

 

On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Bernard Sfez <[hidden email]> wrote:

Uh, looking at this again, maybe "Site title location" should be "Site 
name position in browser title bar".

 

Look even clearer (sorry for extra work JM ;) )  but then, "Browser title" (above) should be "Site name" or anything with ref to this label like : "Site name (Browser title)" or  "Browser title (site name)".

 

Reminder, "Sender email" should be moved to the "Mai" section.

 

Done already!
 

 

 

On 22 Apr 2017, at 07:20 , Gary Cunningham-Lee <[hidden email]> wrote:

 

Uh, looking at this again, maybe "Site title location" should be "Site
name position in browser title bar".

It is longer, but seems more clear to me (shouldn't browser title be
browser title bar in any case, as this is the actual name of the
thing?). Now I'm also thinking it's better not to use "Site title" in
this context because "Site title" is also used for the large text next
to the site icon/logo.

(Sorry for the late feedback.)

-- Gary

On 4/22/2017 4:11 AM, Cloutier, Philippe (RESSOURCE EXTERNE) wrote:

Hi Jean-Marc,
Please see https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&threadId=63876&comzone=show
I consider this as a net regression.


-----Message d'origine-----
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Objet : [Tikiwiki-cvs/svn] SF.net SVN: tikiwiki:[62289] branches/17.x

Revision: 62289
          http://sourceforge.net/p/tikiwiki/code/62289
Author:   jyhem
Date:     2017-04-21 16:18:36 +0000 (Fri, 21 Apr 2017)
Log Message:
-----------
[UX] Make the whole Browser title configuration easier to understand, as discussed during 2017-04-20
roundtable

Modified Paths:
--------------
    branches/17.x/lang/ar/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/bg/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/ca/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/cn/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/cs/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/cy/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/da/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/de/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/el/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/en/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/en-uk/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/es/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/fa/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/fi/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/fj/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/fr/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/fy-NL/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/gl/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/he/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/hr/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/hu/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/id/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/is/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/it/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/iu/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/iu-iq/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/iu-ro/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/ja/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/ko/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/lt/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/nds/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/nl/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/no/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/pl/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/pt/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/pt-br/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/rm/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/ro/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/ru/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/sb/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/si/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/sk/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/sl/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/sq/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/sr-latn/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/sv/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/th/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/tr/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/tv/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/tw/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/uk/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/ur/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/vi/language.php
    branches/17.x/lib/prefs/site.php
    branches/17.x/templates/admin/include_general.tpl

Modified: branches/17.x/lang/ar/language.php
===================================================================
--- branches/17.x/lang/ar/language.php 2017-04-21 16:15:45 UTC (rev 62288)
+++ branches/17.x/lang/ar/language.php 2017-04-21 16:18:36 UTC (rev 62289)
@@ -4520,7 +4520,9 @@
 // "Locations (breadcrumbs)" => "Locations (breadcrumbs)",
 // "Choices" => "Choices",
 // "Site title location" => "Site title location",
+// "Browser title position" => "Site title location",
 // "Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor" =>
"Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor",
+// "Position of the browser title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor" =>
"Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor",
 // "After" => "After",
 // "Before" => "Before",
 // "Browser title display mode" => "Browser title display mode",

…[snip]…

Modified: branches/17.x/lang/vi/language.php
===================================================================
--- branches/17.x/lang/vi/language.php 2017-04-21 16:15:45 UTC (rev 62288)
+++ branches/17.x/lang/vi/language.php 2017-04-21 16:18:36 UTC (rev 62289)
@@ -4520,7 +4520,9 @@
 // "Locations (breadcrumbs)" => "Locations (breadcrumbs)",
 // "Choices" => "Choices",
 // "Site title location" => "Site title location",
+// "Browser title position" => "Site title location",
 // "Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor" =>
"Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor",
+// "Position of the browser title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor" =>
"Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor",
 // "After" => "After",
 // "Before" => "Before",
 // "Browser title display mode" => "Browser title display mode",

Modified: branches/17.x/lib/prefs/site.php
===================================================================
--- branches/17.x/lib/prefs/site.php 2017-04-21 16:15:45 UTC (rev 62288)
+++ branches/17.x/lib/prefs/site.php 2017-04-21 16:18:36 UTC (rev 62289)
@@ -54,14 +54,15 @@
 'default' => '|',
 ),
 'site_title_location' => array(
-'name' => tra('Site title location'),
-'description' => tra('Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to
the current page\'s descriptor.'),
+'name' => tra('Browser title position'),
+'description' => tra('Position of the browser title in the full browser bar relative
to the current page\'s descriptor.'),
 'type' => 'list',
 'options' => array(
-'after' => tra('After'),
-'before' => tra('Before'),
-'none' => tra('None'),
+'after' => tra('After current page\'s descriptor'),
+'before' => tra('Before current page\'s descriptor'),
+'none' => tra('No browser title, only current page\'s descriptor'),
 ),
+'tags' => array('basic'),
 'default' => 'before',
 ),
 'site_title_breadcrumb' => array(
@@ -74,6 +75,7 @@
 'pagetitle' => tra('Current only'),
 'desc' => tra('Description'),
 ),
+'tags' => array('advanced'),
 'default' => 'invertfull',
 ),
 'site_favicon_enable' => array(

Modified: branches/17.x/templates/admin/include_general.tpl
===================================================================
--- branches/17.x/templates/admin/include_general.tpl 2017-04-21 16:15:45 UTC (rev 62288)
+++ branches/17.x/templates/admin/include_general.tpl 2017-04-21 16:18:36 UTC (rev 62289)
@@ -35,7 +35,6 @@
 <fieldset>
 <legend>{tr}Site identity{/tr}</legend>
 {preference name=browsertitle}
-{preference name=sender_email}
 {preference name=site_title_location}
 {preference name=site_title_breadcrumb}
 {remarksbox type="info" title="{tr}Themes{/tr}"}
@@ -44,6 +43,7 @@
 </fieldset>
 <fieldset>
 <legend>{tr}Mail{/tr}</legend>
+{preference name=sender_email}
 {preference name=default_mail_charset}
 {preference name=mail_crlf}
 {preference name=zend_mail_handler}

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Re: [Tiki-devel] Site/browser title preference definitions (was RE: [Tikiwiki-cvs/svn] Browser title relabelling (Re: SF.net SVN: tikiwiki:[62289] branches/17.x))

luciash d' being
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+1

this sounds good to me! Thanks J-M!

luci


On 25.4.2017 17:11, Jean-Marc Libs wrote:
Hi everybody,

This is a joint answer to Luci's very good point about tabs slowly taking over the role of windows, Philippe's point about keeping the label short and moving detailed explanations in the descriptions.
I also share Gary's dislike of "page's descriptor" which is off-putting. I guess it's because we can have blog posts, articles, trackeritems, admin pages and a lot of other things which are not strictly "page names", but then we should have replaced "page", not "name" :-) And from the browser viewpoint, it's all pages anyway.

So, to get a full view of the user's experience, I have also reviewed the associates descriptions and options names and I suggest the following synthesis of our comments:

browsertitle: "Site name in browser title"
browsertitle description: 'Visible label in the browser\'s window title bar. In browsers which feature tabs, it is the tab title. Also appears in search engine results.'

site_title_location: ''Site name position in browser title''
site_title_location description: 'Position of the site name in the browser title relative to the current page name.'
      'options' => array(
        'after' => tra('After current page name'),
        'before' => tra('Before current page name'),
        'none' => tra('No browser title, only current page name'),
        'only' => tra('Only browser title, no current page name'),

site_title_breadcrumb: ''Position of the site name in the browser title relative to the current page name.''
site_title_breadcrumb description: 'When breadcrumbs are used, method to display the browser title.' (unchanged)

I feel we are nearing some consensus :)

Cheers,
Jyhem



On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 8:49 PM, Cloutier, Philippe (RESSOURCE EXTERNE) <[hidden email]> wrote:

I am fine with your suggestions, but luciash’s apparent concern about Browser title is valid. For someone who doesn’t know HTML, “Browser title” must indeed be unclear. Since it is non-trivial to define the browser title with today’s Web, I think it would be ideal to take your proposal, but to use the preference description to explain something like:

The browser title is used in the browser’s window title. In browsers which feature tabs, it is the tab title.

 

Philippe Cloutier
Développeur/configurateur Tiki

Service des systèmes d’information du Registre foncier

Direction des systèmes d’information

Direction générale du soutien aux opérations

Ministère de l'Énergie et des Ressources naturelles

Québec (Québec)  G1H 6R1

Téléphone : 418 627-6282, poste 2209

philippe.cloutier.externe@mern.gouv.qc.ca
mern.gouv.qc.ca

 

De : Jean-Marc Libs [mailto:[hidden email]]
Envoyé : 23 avril 2017 11:57
À : CVS/SVN commits information <[hidden email]>
Cc : Tikiwiki developers <[hidden email]>
Objet : Re: [Tikiwiki-cvs/svn] Browser title relabelling (Re: SF.net SVN: tikiwiki:[62289] branches/17.x)

 

Ooops, typo below

 

On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Jean-Marc Libs <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi guys,

I don't mind changing this again, but not every other day :-D

So, I move the discussion on the dev list and leave some time for labels everybody likes, or at least, nobody dislikes too much.

I'm ok with anything which is consistent together with prefs browsertitle, site_title_location and site_title_breadcrumb.

Before, the inconsistent labels were:
browsertitle: ''Browser title''
site_title_location: ''Site title location''
site_title_breadcrumb: ''Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to the current page\'s descriptor.''


Now they are:
browsertitle: ''Browser title''
site_title_location: ''Browser title position''
site_title_breadcrumb: ''Position of the browser title in the browser title bar relative to the current page\'s descriptor.''


Current suggestions are:
browsertitle: ''Browser title''
site_title_location: ''Site name position in browser title bar''
site_title_breadcrumb: ''Position of the browser title in the browser title bar relative to the current page\'s descriptor.''


Another suggestion:
browsertitle: "Site name" or "Site name (Browser title)" or "Browser title (site name)".
site_title_location: ''Site name position in browser title bar''
site_title_breadcrumb: ''Position of the browser title in the browser title bar relative to the current page\'s descriptor.''


I would personally suggest:
browsertitle: "Site name in browser title)
site_title_location: ''Site name position in browser title''
site_title_breadcrumb: ''Position of the site  in the browser title relative to the current page\'s descriptor.''

I meant:
site_title_breadcrumb: ''Position of the site name in the browser title relative to the current page\'s descriptor.''

 

Cheers,

J-M

 

On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Bernard Sfez <[hidden email]> wrote:

Uh, looking at this again, maybe "Site title location" should be "Site 
name position in browser title bar".

 

Look even clearer (sorry for extra work JM ;) )  but then, "Browser title" (above) should be "Site name" or anything with ref to this label like : "Site name (Browser title)" or  "Browser title (site name)".

 

Reminder, "Sender email" should be moved to the "Mai" section.

 

Done already!
 

 

 

On 22 Apr 2017, at 07:20 , Gary Cunningham-Lee <[hidden email]> wrote:

 

Uh, looking at this again, maybe "Site title location" should be "Site
name position in browser title bar".

It is longer, but seems more clear to me (shouldn't browser title be
browser title bar in any case, as this is the actual name of the
thing?). Now I'm also thinking it's better not to use "Site title" in
this context because "Site title" is also used for the large text next
to the site icon/logo.

(Sorry for the late feedback.)

-- Gary

On 4/22/2017 4:11 AM, Cloutier, Philippe (RESSOURCE EXTERNE) wrote:

Hi Jean-Marc,
Please see https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=26&threadId=63876&comzone=show
I consider this as a net regression.


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Objet : [Tikiwiki-cvs/svn] SF.net SVN: tikiwiki:[62289] branches/17.x

Revision: 62289
          http://sourceforge.net/p/tikiwiki/code/62289
Author:   jyhem
Date:     2017-04-21 16:18:36 +0000 (Fri, 21 Apr 2017)
Log Message:
-----------
[UX] Make the whole Browser title configuration easier to understand, as discussed during 2017-04-20
roundtable

Modified Paths:
--------------
    branches/17.x/lang/ar/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/bg/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/ca/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/cn/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/cs/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/cy/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/da/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/de/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/el/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/en/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/en-uk/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/es/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/fa/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/fi/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/fj/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/fr/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/fy-NL/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/gl/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/he/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/hr/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/hu/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/id/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/is/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/it/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/iu/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/iu-iq/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/iu-ro/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/ja/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/ko/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/lt/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/nds/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/nl/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/no/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/pl/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/pt/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/pt-br/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/rm/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/ro/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/ru/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/sb/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/si/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/sk/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/sl/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/sq/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/sr-latn/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/sv/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/th/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/tr/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/tv/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/tw/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/uk/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/ur/language.php
    branches/17.x/lang/vi/language.php
    branches/17.x/lib/prefs/site.php
    branches/17.x/templates/admin/include_general.tpl

Modified: branches/17.x/lang/ar/language.php
===================================================================
--- branches/17.x/lang/ar/language.php 2017-04-21 16:15:45 UTC (rev 62288)
+++ branches/17.x/lang/ar/language.php 2017-04-21 16:18:36 UTC (rev 62289)
@@ -4520,7 +4520,9 @@
 // "Locations (breadcrumbs)" => "Locations (breadcrumbs)",
 // "Choices" => "Choices",
 // "Site title location" => "Site title location",
+// "Browser title position" => "Site title location",
 // "Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor" =>
"Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor",
+// "Position of the browser title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor" =>
"Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor",
 // "After" => "After",
 // "Before" => "Before",
 // "Browser title display mode" => "Browser title display mode",

…[snip]…

Modified: branches/17.x/lang/vi/language.php
===================================================================
--- branches/17.x/lang/vi/language.php 2017-04-21 16:15:45 UTC (rev 62288)
+++ branches/17.x/lang/vi/language.php 2017-04-21 16:18:36 UTC (rev 62289)
@@ -4520,7 +4520,9 @@
 // "Locations (breadcrumbs)" => "Locations (breadcrumbs)",
 // "Choices" => "Choices",
 // "Site title location" => "Site title location",
+// "Browser title position" => "Site title location",
 // "Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor" =>
"Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor",
+// "Position of the browser title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor" =>
"Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to the current page's descriptor",
 // "After" => "After",
 // "Before" => "Before",
 // "Browser title display mode" => "Browser title display mode",

Modified: branches/17.x/lib/prefs/site.php
===================================================================
--- branches/17.x/lib/prefs/site.php 2017-04-21 16:15:45 UTC (rev 62288)
+++ branches/17.x/lib/prefs/site.php 2017-04-21 16:18:36 UTC (rev 62289)
@@ -54,14 +54,15 @@
 'default' => '|',
 ),
 'site_title_location' => array(
-'name' => tra('Site title location'),
-'description' => tra('Location of the site title in the browser title bar relative to
the current page\'s descriptor.'),
+'name' => tra('Browser title position'),
+'description' => tra('Position of the browser title in the full browser bar relative
to the current page\'s descriptor.'),
 'type' => 'list',
 'options' => array(
-'after' => tra('After'),
-'before' => tra('Before'),
-'none' => tra('None'),
+'after' => tra('After current page\'s descriptor'),
+'before' => tra('Before current page\'s descriptor'),
+'none' => tra('No browser title, only current page\'s descriptor'),
 ),
+'tags' => array('basic'),
 'default' => 'before',
 ),
 'site_title_breadcrumb' => array(
@@ -74,6 +75,7 @@
 'pagetitle' => tra('Current only'),
 'desc' => tra('Description'),
 ),
+'tags' => array('advanced'),
 'default' => 'invertfull',
 ),
 'site_favicon_enable' => array(

Modified: branches/17.x/templates/admin/include_general.tpl
===================================================================
--- branches/17.x/templates/admin/include_general.tpl 2017-04-21 16:15:45 UTC (rev 62288)
+++ branches/17.x/templates/admin/include_general.tpl 2017-04-21 16:18:36 UTC (rev 62289)
@@ -35,7 +35,6 @@
 <fieldset>
 <legend>{tr}Site identity{/tr}</legend>
 {preference name=browsertitle}
-{preference name=sender_email}
 {preference name=site_title_location}
 {preference name=site_title_breadcrumb}
 {remarksbox type="info" title="{tr}Themes{/tr}"}
@@ -44,6 +43,7 @@
 </fieldset>
 <fieldset>
 <legend>{tr}Mail{/tr}</legend>
+{preference name=sender_email}
 {preference name=default_mail_charset}
 {preference name=mail_crlf}
 {preference name=zend_mail_handler}

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