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Re: [Tiki-devel] Philippe Cloutier's messages breaking threading?

Cloutier, Philippe (DGARI-Consultant)
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Alexander Mette [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Envoyé : 6 juillet 2017 14:52
> À : [hidden email]
> Objet : Re: [Tiki-devel] Philippe Cloutier's messages breaking threading? (was RE: My replies to HTML
> mails)
>
> Hi Philippe,
>
> On Thu, 6 Jul 2017 14:33:06 +0000
> "Cloutier, Philippe (DGARI-Consultant)"
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Alexandr,
> >
> > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > De : Alexander Mette [mailto:[hidden email]]
> > > Envoyé : 6 juillet 2017 07:54
> > > À : [hidden email]
> > > Objet : Re: [Tiki-devel] My replies to HTML mails
> > >
> > > Hi Philippe,
> > >
> > > On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 12:59:37 +0000
> > > "Cloutier, Philippe (DGARI-Consultant)"
> > > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Alexander,
> > > >
> > > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > > De : Alexander Mette [mailto:[hidden email]]
> > > > > Envoyé : 5 juillet 2017 08:54
> > > > > À : [hidden email]
> > > > > Objet : Re: [Tiki-devel] My replies to HTML mails (was RE: Gmail
> > > > > (RE: My replies to HTML mails))
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Philippe,
> > > > >
> > > > > you also keep chopping up threads, which is almost more annoying
> > > > > than trying to read the Outlook butchered HTML-emails in my
> > > > > plain text client.
> > > >
> > > > Can you clarify what you mean by "chopping up threads"?
> > >
> > > My e-mail client shows messages in a threaded way. Which means that
> > > replies get shown below the original message and so on, in a
> > > tree-like way. See the image at [1].
> > >
> > > When you answer, your e-mail client doesn't reference the previous
> > > message, which results in your e-mail starting a new thread instead
> > > of continuing the existing one.
> >
> > Thanks for clarifying.
> >
> > Hum. I am not really an expert of email nor of Microsoft Outlook, but
> > I know enough to be surprised by your claim. I just checked the
> > headers of a random mail from myself which I received back from the
> > list, and I see the following :
> >
> > Thread-Topic: [Tikiwiki-cvs/svn] SF.net SVN: tikiwiki:[63182]
> > branches/17.x/lib/core/Tracker/Field/ GroupSelector.php
> > Thread-Index: AQHS9mFIoq29pgNP00CDtKjC9al4nqJG1rcA
> > Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 14:18:16 +0000
> > Message-ID:
> > <[hidden email]>
> > References:
> > <[hidden email]>
> > In-Reply-To:
> > <[hidden email]>
>
> Indeed, I hadn't looked at the full headers, my fault. Still the
> threads are broken up.
>
> > That would appear like plenty of information to ensure proper
> > threading. A bug in Microsoft Outlook cannot be completely excluded,
> > but I strongly suspect an issue with your client. Perhaps its
> > threading algorithms are just not advanced enough to behave optimally
> > in all cases (I would argue that failing to reconstruct a thread is
> > not necessarily a bug).
>
> I actually realise now that my mail client is too smart and
> figures that it should break threads up, when people change the
> subject. Which is something you do frequently. I do see other properly
> threaded e-mails from you. In those, the subject has stayed intact.
> Before I thought that they were coming from your other e-mail client,
> but the common denominator seems to be the subject change.
>
> Sorry for the false alarm!

No problem. I realized mine also features that excessive smartness, but I was not yet annoyed enough to check if there's an option to control it.

>
> cheers
> amette
>
> > > This "My replies to HTML mails" thread is already four different
> > > threads. That's why I say "chopping up".
> > >
> > > [...]
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